This July, our founder Alexander Zinchuk joined TON for a live AMA on 𝕏 to share exciting updates and give a sneak peek at ambitious plans ahead.
Read the full transcript below:
Intro
Ethan:
Gm gm everyone! I'm just starting off, getting ready to host the space here with MyTonWallet. It's great to have them here. Welcome to space! We're going to give it a couple minutes while everyone gets joined in and we get the rest of the speakers on stage and then we'll get straight into it.
Alexander:
Hi everyone!
Ethan:
Hello, hello! How are you doing?
Alexander:
Good, thank you. How are you?
Ethan:
Doing absolutely amazing. Very excited to be hosting these spaces. Thank you for joining us, Alexander, how are you doing today? What's been going on this week?
About @push
Alexander:
Sure, thanks a lot for having us. It was tough a little bit because of many releases that we are currently doing, but it's been a tough year and probably a couple of years, so it doesn't really change anything. I'm happy that we finally released @push.
Ethan:
Yeah, it's absolutely amazing. I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask you a question as well. Did you get the inspiration for this like from Revolut perhaps? Because I know in Revolut, at least, you can send people a request for a certain amount of money, or you can send them an amount of money just in a little chat room. Is that sort of where you got this idea from?
Alexander:
Not really. I'm not an active user of Revolut, but I did have an inspiration for this definitely, but that was another project. I've always been inspired by this @send bot in Telegram which is, I think, doing just an amazing job. The interface is really good and all the details are well planned. The only issue with them is that they are not a decentralized, or, in fact, custodial wallet.
I have been thinking about what we can do with our non-custodial approach to make it truly decentralized, but with similar experience and flawless ability to send money right in Telegram chats. That was the source of inspiration. The guys are doing great.
The Story Behind MyTonWallet
Ethan:
I love that! I've actually been playing around with it a little bit. We've been in our little group chat with me, Viktor, Jacob and Zenith — we've been sort of sending the money from our individual wallets. I think I took like a few TON from Viktor accidentally. I offered to send him back but he said to keep it. So thanks to you Alexander, I've just got an extra 5 TON from Viktor. So I'm gonna take that, yeah.
So how about you walk us through the history of MyTonWallet and @push — when did you start? What was your initial inspiration for starting the whole project? What challenges did you face and how did you overcome them? Just walk me through all of them.
Alexander:
We are about to roll out a new version of MyTonWallet, a version 4.0 — that's because we are starting a fourth year of our development of MyTonWallet. That's been a long ride!
We started almost from the very beginning of TON itself, and we've been around even before that — before it became popular after being revived by the open‑source community. Part of our team participated in transitioning the remnants left after Telegram to a new ecosystem and a new project. So it's been a long time.
MyTonWallet is our main product. We started as a Chrome extension because at that point there was no Chrome extension, but that was very much needed. Later, we expanded our presence to, first, the desktop platforms, and later mobile platforms as well. That was a game changer for us because we acquired many new audiences since we switched to mobile apps. Now, we are primarily a mobile app, but we also support other platforms: desktop, browsers, the web interface, Chrome Extension, and even Telegram Mini App.
This @push product was spontaneous even for us. It was not a part of our regular release plan. As you probably know, we have a KPI for releasing an update every month with useful features for our users.
We've been on this track since November last year, I guess. So, we have released 8 big releases since then, bringing over dozens of exciting new features. Some of them were really unique across TON ecosystem and even across all blockchains as well.
This @push was off our roadmap. It was a side project, which I've been working on in my free time. It turned out to be really cool and people were very glad to see it, and I'm happy that it happened.
New Features & Recent Updates
Ethan:
Yeah, the reception to @push has been astounding. Everyone's talking about it right now and absolutely love to see it. What's been sort of the biggest impact release you've had in the last months there?
You say you release one every month, but which one has been other than @push the one that's brought you the most attention? What's done the most impact in the community that's helped most people out, would you say?
Alexander:
Well, there were plenty of them — I welcome everyone to join our public Telegram channels. Also, we have MyTonWallet Blog where we describe all our releases.
But I can still name a few powerful features too. For example, recently we had this multisend feature which is available across all platforms including mobile and desktop apps. It's completely free: you can send mass payments like up to 200 recipients with different tokens at once, be that TON or Jettons — it doesn't matter. You can specify different amounts and that is very convenient with our interface right within MyTonWallet. If you haven't checked it yet, you can just long tap on the "Send" button or right click if you are using the desktop — you'll see the button that will take you to this feature.
What else? Well, we had several iterations of improving our "Activity" feed, which, I assume, is one of the most important things in the wallet because you can not only buy, sell, and transfer as before — right now, you have plenty of actions that you can do within TON ecosystem like buying or selling NFTs, managing your TON domains, and other stuff.
By the way, for TON domains we've released a feature that automatically reminds you if your TON domain will expire soon — you'll probably miss it unless you have a notification from MyTonWallet that you can notice. Right in the wallet interface, you can automatically renew your domain — not only one, but many at once. Let's say you have several ones, dozens, or even hundreds — with just a few clicks you can renew all of them. That was also unique to the ecosystem.
What else… There's also another useful feature — when you enter an amount in some cryptocurrency, like TON, but you want to send money in the real world, what we would normally do, like paying your friend for dinner or splitting checks — you can now enter the amount in your local currency and easily switch between specifying the amount in fiat or crypto. That is also quite convenient.
We've also released MyTonWallet Pay, which is an automatic payment system that merchants can install on their online store to receive payments from MyTonWallet users in crypto, which is quite useful for someone.
By the way, we always try to improve the perceived experience of using crypto. For example, the speed of transactions is not always ideal. We are on a blockchain, where transactions need to be settled and finalized in the network. What we can do is realize something that's called "optimistic UI", when we try to show what we expect to happen for the user right away.
For example, you send a transfer from MyTonWallet. When you confirm it, the outgoing transfer will automatically appear in your wallet. Obviously, you don't need to wait until the transaction goes somewhere in the blockchain and is finalized there. Not only does it appear in your interface, you can also see details of it: you can copy the link to it right away, the moment you send it.
You can send that link to your friend or someone you are sending the money to. That works along with another project, Tonscan — thanks to Toncenter API, our good friends from TON Core team.
So, we try to also expand in this way — not only visual interface, but also perception of performance. We still have a few great releases we are going to announce very soon. That's it.
About The Team & Hiring Approach
Ethan:
Wow, wow, that is a lot of information! I'm gonna ask you some questions about that in just a second.
We've also got Jacob here, who just joined us. How are you doing Jacob?
Jacob:
Yeah, GM GM everybody, Jacob here. Excited to be here behind TON Community page. So, welcome Alexander!
I would say, I really like this function @push that Ethan mentioned at the beginning of this Space. We tried it among ourselves with Viktor and Zenith, but it centrally took a lot of work to bring it all for the community.
So, I have a question for you — how big is your team?
Alexander:
We don't have a big team. We have about four developers right now: two of them are front-end, two of them are back-end. We also have an upcoming release — I think I can reveal this already — we are releasing new mobile versions, and we are going to announce them tomorrow.
We've been working on them for several months, and we have two more developers for these mobile apps too. So, six in total. But that is for MyTonWallet, @push is a bit different.
@Push was my home garage project — I've been working on it on my own. The team was not involved in @push so far, I think they're going to join right now.
Ethan:
I love how the garage project turned into such a thing. I've got so many questions about all these releases you've done. I'll just make a comment on the small team as well.
I feel like some of the best teams, not just in crypto, but across basically any tech company, the best teams are the smallest ones that work efficiently together. I feel that over hiring like 30-40 developers just results in roadblocks. You know, people edit code where someone else was editing it and then they overlap and then something goes wrong. I feel like having the smallest team possible when it comes to developing is probably the best way to go. And I'm sure you agree with that, Alexander.
Alexander:
That is definitely true. We put a lot of effort in forming our team and trying to onboard the best engineers that we can. We have our specific approach, which we took from Telegram, that is only hiring people after public contests.
All our technical team is formed by previous winners of contests that we hosted. Last year, we hosted four developer contests with $75,000 prize pool — that was the payout that we made by the end of last year.
We've also hired several people: there were five of them, but unfortunately, one didn't handle this tough journey. So, now we have four developers in the team of our current application and two more in the mobile application. They are also winners of the contests that we had before.
Crypto Payments & Subscriptions
Ethan:
I love quality over quantity. I love the way that people are using contests to hire people now. Degrees are useless, your work experience is useless. It's all about what you can do right now for me and how good you are at it — that's the best way to hire people for sure.
One of the most interesting things I see about MyTonWallet is the ability, as you said, to set up recurring payments, subscriptions so you can do things like Netflix, you can buy. What else can you buy? I'm gonna have a look at your tweets here. You've got, I don't know, Netflix, Spotify, you can buy gift cards for ebay or App Store top ups. Yeah, everything.
This isn't just useful for setting up recurring payments — obviously it is. But it's also very useful for people that are unbanked, which I'm sure you're very aware of Alexander. There's a big Nigerian community within TON, and 64% of Nigeria is unbanked at the moment. So for these guys to set up subscriptions is basically impossible. And I'm sure that MyTonWallet is an absolute gem for them. What do you think about this?
Alexander:
I'm very happy that we can help someone to use payments within MyTonWallet, while there's a lack of other options. Sure, we are just trying our best.
Ethan:
That's great! Who are the biggest companies right now that have integrated your subscription sort of interface?
Alexander:
Sorry, what was that again? Please.
Ethan:
Correct me if I'm wrong. You mentioned that you can get an interface of MyTonWallet integrated into a website to set up recurring payments. Who are your biggest partners right now that you're working with for that?
Alexander:
Oh, we have Tokenstore. They have integrated MyTonWallet, but I'm not sure they have recurring payments. You need to confirm every action you make with your non-custodial wallet. But you definitely can pay to get a voucher or something like a digital card that will allow you to access services for as long as you need.
Ethan:
Yeah, I see, I see. Is recurring payments maybe something that will come out in the future?
Alexander:
That's an interesting topic because, in a non-custodial wallet, neither we nor anyone else has access to your personal wallet. So, if you want to make recurrent payments, then you need to delegate the action of repeating a payment to someone else — unless it can be done on-chain, which is possible.
A few years ago, when we had our V4 wallet, which had this feature of recurrent payments that was used in some startups in Telegram, like subscription options to subscribe for channels. I don't think it acquired a lot of users at that point, but that is definitely something we can look at again. Maybe, try to find a new way to use it for recurring payments for these services within MyTonWallet Pay.
That's an interesting idea, we should think about it.
How @push Works?
Ethan:
Yeah, I think it could definitely have lots of use cases. Even if it was where you send a certain amount, let's say, three months worth of payments into — what's it called? What's the word when you send, it's like a middleman wallet. What's that word? I don't know what the word is.
Alexander:
Are you asking the Tokenstore?
Ethan:
No, no, I'm just going off the subscription again. Let's say, there're three wallets involved in the transaction. One of them is the company wallet, one of them is the middleman wallet, and one of them is the user wallet.
The user could send, let's say, three months worth of payments into the middleman wallet, which is then pre-authorized to pay per month three times to the company wallet. That would be one way of doing it.
Alexander:
It would be an escrow smart contract.
Ethan:
Escrow, that's it. That's the word — escrow. That's the word I couldn't figure out. Oh, we've got Viktor in the audience. Let's see if we can get Viktor on stage. [...] There he is, he's joining now. Viktor, are you with us? I think he's just joining now.
Alexander:
Hello, Viktor!
Speaking about escrow smart contracts — that's exactly what's at the heart of @push system. The main feature of @push is the ability to send money to whoever you want via Telegram, including those who don't have a crypto wallet yet or even never heard about crypto before. You can still send them a @push — your money will be taken from your wallet and safely stored on an escrow smart contract of @push ecosystem. Once the recipient receives your @push in Telegram and finds spare time to create a wallet and click the "Receive" button, at that point, the money from the escrow wallet will be sent to him. But before that, they're safely stored on the smart contract, and the sender can retract them at any point. So, you can cancel your payment and just get your money back.
Ethan:
Oh, that's huge. Yeah, that is massive! That reminds me of PayPal actually.
You can send money to someone who doesn't have a crypto wallet set up, which I guess most people don't right now. And then that's their way of onboarding straight away! As you said, let's say they're at the restaurant and they want to split a bill. You could just do it like that and say, oh just send me it, send me it on crypto. I want to get involved in crypto — you can send it there. Great way of onboarding.
Telegram’s Role in @push
Alexander:
I just want to appreciate Telegram as a whole because it's an amazing platform that allows developers to create amazing things not only like regular bots and Mini Apps, but something deeply integrated with blockchain, as in this case with @push. The "secret sauce" of @push implementation is a digital signature made by Telegram. What is done in @push when you send money and they get to an escrow smart contract, as I said before, in order to retrieve the funds from the smart contract for the recipient, they present a digital signature of their username or a chat that they are involved in or where the @push was sent — that digital signature is provided by Telegram.
What is even greater is that this digital signature uses the most modern cryptographical algorithm to implement that. Nowadays, digital signatures are everywhere: when you use a social media login button, like Google, Apple, or something like that, they also provide a digital signature to the website you are authorizing in. But those digital signatures are not that modern — they are more like from the older days. That means they cannot be used within the blockchain because in the blockchain what we need is extreme speed and performance.
Telegram uses this new elliptic curve digital signature algorithm that allows us to check that digital signature to verify it is actually within the blockchain in the smart contract. Thanks to that we could implement this @push system. We used several features from them. The Mini App, bot, this digital signature, also the inline query which is extremely useful — it can't be done in any other messenger.
With @push what you can do right now just in your chat, you can start typing @ and you get a dropdown menu, where you can select your bots that you use frequently and you will see @push there. You can just click on it and then enter the amount and the token. So, one click and a few taps on your keyboard and you can send the money away.
Ethan:
That's incredible. That's just so easy to use for someone that's new to crypto. It's just, it's very intuitive. I feel like one of the biggest barriers for crypto, at least at the, at the moment in other blockchains, is that it's just a little bit too techy for a lot of people to get involved with, especially those maybe above the age of like 30 or 40 who aren't used to using Telegram daily.
I appreciate that MyTonWallet is only possible on some blockchain, especially since we're integrated directly with Telegram. You just couldn't do this anywhere else.
Funding & Developer Contests
Jacob:
Maybe one. So Alexander, like before you mentioned that you distribute $75,000 in contests, am I right?
Alexander:
I think probably $70,000 or $75,000, something like that.
Jacob:
Okay. So it's quite an amount. Did you have any funding or are you financing everything out of your own pocket, like your project?
Alexander:
That's out of my own pocket. But it's quite an amount.
Jacob:
I mean, it's quite a lot, you know.
Alexander:
It is extremely important for us. Those contests are a way for us to hire the best people from the market and the most motivated people. Contest is usually a very extreme process to be involved in. You only have a very short amount of time and quite a sophisticated task to implement. That is where you can realize your ambitions, your potential, your knowledge and skills. For us it's a good way to see how potential developers can behave within a stressful situation with the shortage of time. That's an approach that we like.
We are starting a new contest, actually two contests right away tomorrow with a total price fund of $60,000. We have one concept for QA engineers because we're rolling out those new mobile versions and for them that will be $10,000 prize. Also we will start a security bounty program specifically for those new versions.
We already have an open security bounty program on CertiK platform, where we offer $100,000 to "white hat" hackers who could figure out any security issues and vulnerabilities in MyTonWallet. But right now, we add $50,000 more for the new apps.
Luckily, it was never used in the CertiK platform and I hope it will not be used in this contest also. Definitely we will pay out some prizes for those who will find vulnerabilities in these new apps. I just want to emphasize that so far we haven't had any serious issues with our security. Obviously I'm not saying it's 100% secure. Nobody can say that ever in technology — anything can happen. But we put a lot of effort into putting security first.
New Mobile Apps
Ethan:
You said you had an announcement coming out tomorrow that you said you were going to talk about. I just wanted you to talk about that one more time just because I think I missed a little bit of it. Can you go into more depth?
Alexander:
We are releasing new mobile versions completely rewritten from scratch. They will use the most low-level platform-native technology stack for them. It's Swift for iOS and it's Kotlin for Android. It's all native animations, native UI elements and a lot of beautiful and rich UI elements and animations as well.
I think you guys are gonna love it once you see, but first we need to test it out pretty good. That's why we are announcing a public beta QA contest tomorrow for engineers to join the contest and try to identify issues with our current versions.
We'll be releasing tomorrow in the form of test flight link and in the form of .APK downloadable file for Android — everyone can join, try out new versions and try out to accurately collect bugs and other problems and report them via GitHub platform in order to get some price from us in the end of the contest.
Ethan:
What an incredible way to do QA, that's amazing! You know, release the app early so that the core community can give it a little test ride, you know, see if they can break it and in the process maybe, maybe earn some money by doing so. I think that's amazing. It provides opportunities, well for the whole, the whole world because I'm sure you have a global community.
I can imagine a lot of people, people getting on this and really giving it a good go for you guys and it will help you guys immensely and making the app itself as perfect as humanly possible.
You don't see too many crypto wallets these days making new apps on the App Store. You know, you've got your Phantom, you've got your Metamask, but that's, that's basically it. So to MyTonWallet breaking through and being one of the first TON blockchain wallets to be released on the App Store. Is that correct?
Alexander:
To be released on the App Store? No, not really. There are many apps already there and we've been there as well, but just with other platforms and right now we will have a new design.
First of all, the design will be native, so for users who are used to iOS design, they will transition very seamlessly to this new interface because it follows and implements the basic patterns and UX solutions that already exist, but also brings some new ones. Same for Android — you have a native look and feel, native animations, extreme performance, even on weak devices. I think that's going to be amazing. That's something we've been cooking since last year, but even more than a year. Since May, I would say. So it's been 14 months by now.
Future Challenges & Vision
Ethan:
So this one's been cooking for quite a while. I can't wait to see it!
Alexander:
That will be absolutely amazing.
Ethan:
Oh, it will be! I'm going to be one of the first people to download the TestFlight. So looking forward into the near term to long term view, what are like, let's say, two main challenges that you want to overcome in the next sort of one to two years?
Alexander:
That's a great one, an interesting one definitely. So, we love TON very much. I consider TON the best blockchain out there considering the technology that it has. But I also think that it's still at the very beginning. I hope it will develop more and more and acquire more users and more developers to build their amazing projects on its base.
But we also feel that there is a lot of audience outside that we probably want to also bring in. That's why, for example, last year we introduced support for TRON and that was also an innovation across TON wallets.
We were the first to do that. So we supported USDT and TRX from the TRON blockchain, allowing users to seamlessly jump into TON, previously having experience with other blockchains such as TRON, for example. So, you could import your TRON wallet and see your coins right away in MyTonWallet. Then you can easily, for example, swap from existing USDT or TRX to USDT within TON or Toncoin itself.
We are trying to stay on this path and we are planning to add more blockchains into MyTonWallet. I don't want to promise exact blockchains, but we will definitely consider Ethereum, Solana, Bitcoin and other popular blockchains in the near future.
Another great path that we can probably go with is introducing more DeFi tools into MyTonWallet. There are millions of different DeFi options in the market, but they are extremely complicated because you have many different algorithms and protocols that you can use in order to put your money to work, like lending protocols, decentralized exchanges, or margin trading.
What we can do is try to find a way to simplify it all — to build a new look that is more understandable for newcomers. And I know that TON already had this in their plan. I mean official TON teams like TON Foundation, for example, they speak about that a lot. Having a single "Earn" button that you can tap and start earning money without diving too deep into what's happening under the hood — and under the hood real DeFi will be used. So your money will be traveling across different smart contracts, verified obviously and audited by respected auditors — that's what we are working on right now.
We have plenty of DeFi projects out there already coming to TON, but it's really hard for them to onboard new people without experience in doing this DeFi stuff. So we will try to simplify that, the bottom line is that.
Who's Behind MyTonWallet?
Viktor:
Yes, I'm here. Actually, there is not much that I would ask because I don't know what you asked in the beginning, but I was wondering a little bit about the MyTonWallet team as well. Alexander, if you could share who is on your team, how many people do you have overall to make it possible and to create all those innovations that you release?
Alexander:
I can't stop answering that because I just love my team so much! We've got exciting engineers, and not only engineers. We also have great people in our growth department, in our testing department too — those are probably engineers as well.
But also the user support team is very valuable for us, as we are trying to be very careful and caring with our audience. I can only tell that we put a lot of effort into replying to every message that we get from our users throughout our support channels — our support team is just amazing, just like all the other teams.
The thing is what we try to achieve in our team is to have completely autonomous groups within the team so they can realize their best goals and their best values — that's all about hiring the best people, of course. They're highly capable and again for engineers that's the same because of winning contests and stuff like that.
I don't know what's more important than hiring a talented team, but probably the other equally important would be to try to really, really feel the need of the audience and work from there.
Ethan:
That's great to hear! I've got a couple of questions based on what you say that obviously your support team works very closely with the community to sort of, feel out what they're enjoying, what they're not enjoying. If they find any bugs, how would you say it breaks down sort of percentage-wise? How many bugs or improvements your team finds internally versus how many come from the community?
Alexander:
Are you asking whether we are finding more bugs than our community? Because we definitely are.
That is absolutely internal. I think 99% of the bugs are found internally. But it's not only about finding bugs, it's more about helping people to get on board because we see a lot of reports and messages from people who just haven't ever used any wallet or any crypto.
For them it's really hard to start and to begin with working, sending transfers, using dapps, and stuff like that. Our support team tries to help them, but obviously sometimes they find bugs as well and we try to fix them as soon as possible.
We have our QA department now — the department is pretty solid. Particularly two QA engineers right now. They find mostly all the bugs that we can observe before the releases.
In the support team we have three people, and the workload has lowered a lot since last year when we had releases of, you remember those big games like Hamster Combat. At that point we had like thousands of messages per day, but right now we have less. That's why three people for us is more than enough for now.
Ethan:
Yeah, absolutely. You don't need to have too many people if there's not too much workload coming — that's absolutely fair enough. Do you see a massive influx of users joining when you start releasing these apps on the App Store and Google Play, or do you expect it to sort of stay about even as what it is now?
Alexander:
I hope so! I hope that having these new refreshed apps will motivate people to transit from other applications and probably from other blockchains as well.
We put a lot of effort into providing the best UX experience, the most sleek interface and the smoothest animations. It's just nice to use. It's just like you feel good when you use it.
So why would you use another blockchain since you have low commissions, low fees and TON-fast transactions? Especially this year, after TON Core introduced improvements and optimizations for TON architecture. Why would you do that?
You have everything here, so we would be happy to have many more people coming from other blockchains.
Designing for Every Platform
Ethan:
By the way, I want to ask about the latest feature as well that you release. How is it exactly working? Because I tried using it myself, kind of went to send it on. I dropped it on the chat. I think Ethan tried to claim it and I've tried to claim it myself and not a try as well. But how does it work overall?
The technical part of this piece of technology and this implementation is actually one of the coolest that your team has recently been working upon.
Alexander:
Thank you! So the technical part is, for example, if there are many people in the chat, like three people or more, and someone simply sends a @push into this chat, this push will be cryptographically bound to this specific chat — anyone from the chat will be able to claim it to receive the money. That is implemented by Telegram Digital Signature, because Telegram released their public keys and then they can sign that you as a Telegram user belong to this specific chat, and in the escrow smart contract, we can verify the signature and decide whether or not you are eligible to get the @push.
But you can also limit the transfer to a specific person within a group chat: simply specify his username in @push, and the smart contract will verify that this user truly owns this username and he is trying to receive the money. Since the username belongs to him, we can push the money to him.
Ethan:
Yeah, this is actually a very interesting setup and yeah, it works very fast as well. For anyone who doesn't know what we're talking about, you can go to any chat on Telegram, just type @push, and then, for example, 1 TON, and you're going to be able to drop the message to the chat like this and someone can claim it.
By the way, I also noticed one thing in regard to this feature, you can use different wallets. Even though you released the technology, you decided to make it open to everyone within TON Connect, right?
Alexander:
Exactly. When I first thought about this idea, obviously I thought that it would be great only for MyTonWallet to have this feature and ability to send money to anyone via Telegram. But then I realized that it's even cooler to allow it for everyone, not specifically limited to our audience and MyTonWallet users. So you can send money to Tonkeeper users and vice versa and even users of other wallets can send money between them, not involving MyTonWallet in any way.
But obviously, we encourage everyone to use MyTonWallet and migrate to it in case they like it, which we always try to achieve.
Ethan:
Yeah, and I also like how you approach the design in a lot of what you do, it looks very sleek. I don't know how the experience on Android is because I have been using an iPhone lately, but it's been an incredible experience overall with all the features within the wallet itself. The others that you released and made it open to the public, which by the way is a great move. People have been surprised in the chat! This is how we support innovation.
Speaking of the design, how do you usually approach those things when you decide to develop a new thing? How do you go into designing it? How would it look and feel like for the end user?
Alexander:
Oh, that's my bad! I forgot to mention our design team when I mentioned our small departments that we have. Of course we have our designers which are just extremely talented people. Talented guys, they are very young, some of them have just finished school, but still they are very talented and they create great interfaces.
First, we try to plan the structure of the interface in the way that it would look useful, convenient for users, and then we just try to implement that within regular Figma software. Sometimes we adapt the designs for different platforms as we normally do with these new apps that I was talking about before. But sometimes we make hybrid designs that will look fine on every platform.
Another challenge that we have is that as I said before, we are truly multi-platform. So we use the same code base for all our platforms including iOS, Android, Windows, Mac OS, Chrome extension, Telegram Mini App, and different browsers and stuff like that. So, obviously you need to adapt your interface in terms of different screen sizes, whether that is a touch interface or mouse or keyboard or stuff like that. That can be a challenging task for our designers as well. But yeah, they are doing a great job.
The Future is Trustless
Ethan:
It's great to hear all this, and I just want to thank you again, Alexander, for coming on stage! We're going to wrap it up in just a minute here on top of the hour. We're going to be moving over to the TON Community page and we're going to have another AMA. Everyone should tune into that. It's going to be amazing. But I'm just going to give you one last opportunity to give any closing remarks that you want to give and then we'll wrap it up.
Alexander:
Well, I think that as time goes, people will feel more responsibility for the things they own for their lives. There will be more freedom and more ability to control stuff and possessions and not only physical stuff, but also to better control your ideas and willings because the world will transform into a more free space, I believe.
Blockchain technology is very important and very popular right now. I would say it's unfortunate that it's popular not because of an extremely amazing technology that lies underneath it, but because of sometimes not very fair processes such as highly volatile markets, for example, where you can think that you can earn a lot of money without doing anything, which is never true.
A lot of people are getting involved in this just because they have some kind of greed and because they want to get easy money. But I think that is temporary. I think in time it will change a little bit. The true potential of blockchain, of distributed and decentralized technologies, will rise and take its place. It will definitely take up more space in our day‑to‑day life in the future. I hope that there will be more decentralized, non-custodial, and trustless solutions out there, and that will help people to better control their lives and their possessions.
Ethan:
Brilliant. Well, that's a great note to end it on. Again, thank you so much everyone for coming to this space. We're gonna hop over to the TON Community page now. Make sure you hop on over and yeah, we'll end it there. Thanks!
Alexander:
Thank you very much, guys. Have a nice one. Bye.